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Old 31-10-2005, 09:54 PM   #1
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How to retire abroad

How to retire abroad

By Nic Cicutti, MSN Money special correspondent
Last updated Aug 20 2004

DonÂ’t get too jealous now, but I want to let you into a little secret. You probably think I work in a pokey garret somewhere in the UK, donÂ’t you? Usually I do.

However, this article is being penned from a cottage in the middle of France, where I have been staying for the past few weeks. OK, the weather isnÂ’t always brilliant here either, but it sure beats grimy old London.

Later this evening, when this is finished, IÂ’ll have a quick dip in the pool and an alfresco meal, before relaxing to the sound of cicadas from the front porch of our isolated countryside gite.



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Old 21-12-2005, 09:23 AM   #2
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Wouldn't we all , indeed ?

I wish , too - but :
If only it were so simple !!!???
The writer , from his swimming pool in France , fails to enlighten us on such realities as
Napoleonic code ,
wealth tax ,
assessment on "apparent lifestyle" ,
various property-and-other untold taxes ,
social security contributions and surcharges and a number of other , actual and/or potential ticking time-bombs , awaiting any expat-retiree in La Belle France ; so much so is Le French fisc nowadays a huge No-No : that even most well-to-do French families have to establish actual physical residence in some more fiscal-friendly location ( and many are well-known to have chosen , inter alia : Switzerland , Belgium , Spain , Portugal , Cyprus , Israel , Malta etc)
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Old 28-04-2007, 08:09 PM   #3
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I wish , too - but :
If only it were so simple !!!???
The writer , from his swimming pool in France , fails to enlighten us on such realities as
Napoleonic code ,
wealth tax ,
assessment on "apparent lifestyle" ,
various property-and-other untold taxes ,
social security contributions and surcharges and a number of other , actual and/or potential ticking time-bombs , awaiting any expat-retiree in La Belle France ; so much so is Le French fisc nowadays a huge No-No : that even most well-to-do French families have to establish actual physical residence in some more fiscal-friendly location ( and many are well-known to have chosen , inter alia : Switzerland , Belgium , Spain , Portugal , Cyprus , Israel , Malta etc)
And he also doesn't mention the thing about living with the French...... especially if you don't speak the patois.
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Old 29-04-2007, 06:45 AM   #4
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Oh , but what's wrong with taking lessons ?
But seriously : there just can't be a nicer place to retire to , methinks ...
were it only not for the mad commies , running the bureacracies and the tax offices...
On the other hand , I hear of an allmighty property crash on the Costas assorted ...so , maybe , that'll still be the way to go ???
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Old 29-04-2007, 07:17 AM   #5
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Hi Ray

the property crash u discuss involving the Costas, isn't this because of all the Spanish laws and the reclaiming of land etc etc

I had heard that there was a lot of illegal building etc, is this true, please?
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Old 29-04-2007, 10:56 AM   #7
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Serves them right , mefinkz !

There are many states/nations , ( like Spain , Greece , Portugal , Cyprus , Latvia , Estonia , Lithuania , Roumania , Bulgaria , Italy even ) admitted into EUroLand , that have not got a single clue , how to behave like Europeans ...
As for the Costas property crash : Spain has lately built more accomodation than France , Germany and U.K. combined , and was happily looking at year-on-year double-digits' prices increases ; banking on a never-ending supply of too-well-heeled mugs and punters from U.K. , Ireland , Benelux...and so : the greeed easily overtook the fear , or indeed : any sense of reality !
Looking at Costa Brava asking prices , for villas and fincas
( N.B. not that much ever actually gets sold , except when the overtaxed Germans and Dutch decide to cut their losses ) ,
Surrey suddenly begins to look attractive pricewise , hehehe...
Any bets , on how high the Euro-rates might go ?
Or on how deep the US $ might yet fall ?
Or can England ever be saved , even partially , from the damages which 3 terms of Bliar have done , to that once green and pleasant land ?
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Old 29-04-2007, 06:01 PM   #8
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problem with France (and Spain) is the Poms spoiling it ...






Going for cover ... but you all know it's true
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Old 29-04-2007, 08:28 PM   #9
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I much disagree

The Brits
( and the likes of them , e.g. Irish , Skandies ...anybody but the universally-hated Yankees ! )
are usually perceived as cash-flow rich !
Thus , the assortiment of goods and services on offer adapts ,
upwards , to accomodate this potential spending !
Which has helped many a sad dump , towards a better future , IMHO !
Some have not taken a leaf out of this book , to their regret , though...
Not quite sure where/how much Spain fits into this exchange???
Disappointing , they were and are , before and after Francisco Franco ;
yet , the tax regime got much better , recently...
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Old 06-03-2012, 02:34 PM   #10
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It's really hard to retire abroad. I'ld always suggest moving somewhere close to the city where transportation, and living costs are rather low. That's what my inlaws did in France and it seems to be working out for them.
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